Nnthe collector book of german bayonets markings

He has been an active member and frequent internet contributor to the bayonet collectors network since its inception ten years ago. They are true vz24 bayonets, lacking any german modifications. Wwii german k98 bayonet the karabiner 98 kurz often abbreviated kar98k, k98, or k98k was a boltaction rifle adopted as the standard infantry rifle in 1935 by the german wehrmacht, and was one of the final developments in the long line of mauser military rifles. The german bayonet a comprehensive illustrated his. With over half a lifetime collecting british and commonwealth bayonets, and more recently german ersatz and modified bayonets from the great war, its inevitable that a little pruning is in order. Apr 09, 2018 this bayonet worn only as a sidearm and has no use as a bayonet, on imperail army, as the german troops were equiped with lebel 188693 rifle, which cannot accept this model of bayonet.

Sep 25, 2015 all of our bayonets are in stock and ready to ship. Ww1 german bayonets from my collection arms and other. The collectors pictorial book of bayonets hardcover january 1, 1971 by frederick john stephens author. The german bayonets were influenced by the french when they adopted bayonets. Manufacturers markings found on m188498 iii bayonets and scabbards 19341945 maker number code trademark letter code years of production. Best part of book is the dedication, to my wife, without whose discouragement this book would. This example, made in 1940, bears the german number code 945, which was assigned to the zbrojovka, brno, plant, under the zahlencode system number code system used by germany from 19251940 to hide the identities of firms manufacturing war materiel. The danish socket bayonets was individually adapted to the rifle. He is a charter member and currently a director of the society of american bayonet collectors. In a very short period of time i was able to get 3 socket bayonets. The german bayonet, 18711945, traces the history of the weapons dwelling on dimensions, markings, accessories and construction from the old dreyse needlerifles and percussion muzzleloaders of the francoprussian war, through the bloody trench warfare of. Privately published this little booklet is very useful in covering the markings from a wide range of countries.

Bayonet connection rare bayonets from around the world. Approved bayonets or modifications from circa m1775 to m1799 was marked with the inspectors mark on the arm close to the socket. The 9 58 inch, single fullered blade on this one remain nice and bright. This would have allowed only a few months during which simson produced bayonets with the onepiece grip. Swords of imperial japan 18681945 cyclopedia edition is the new book by jim dawson. Please check out my bayonets, edged weapons, miscellaneous militaria i. A flintlock bayonet blunderbuss by twigg, 14inch threestage brass cannon barrel with flared ring turned muzzle, engraved london on the top flat, fitted with a top sprung bayonet, border engraved stepped and bolted signed lock, full stock, chip behind lock and split to foreend, border and foliate engraved brass mounts, horncapped wooden ramrod.

Additions and corrections to unit marks found on s14 bayonets ii. The history of the british bayonet goes back to the 17th century, and because of this the british bayonet is one of the more interesting types of militaria to collect. Some rare, some extremely so, but all are definitely very collectible. If you collect wwi german this book needs to be in your collection. Us m1816 bayonet for the m1816 smoothbore muskets, british patt. This reference is by no means exhaustive, but does cover many of the bayonets encountered on the collector s market today, as well as some rare and unusual. The one must have bayonet book parallaxbills curio. This reference is by no means exhaustive, but does cover many of the bayonets encountered on the collectors market today, as well as some rare and unusual. Many collector reference books in stock and many wwii era books in stock so watch for updates.

Markings on danish bayonets bayonets of scandinavia. Confederate bayonet for the hall carbine for drooling only, not for sale. The author looks at the evolution of the rifles that the bayonets were attached to, and how that influenced the design of the bayonet itself. German 8498 variations the 8498 or k98 was the standard bayonet of the german army after wwi until the end of wwii. John wish i could go one better with one of my blades, but cant the rarest period blade i know of is the external spring 7184 sawback 1, shown in rays books. It is common now however for collectors to use the designations used by carter in his ersatz bayonet books, as it gives a consistency to the designations as all have the same german designation s8898 based on the rifles the bayonets fit and i shall use carters identifications on this page. This bayonet was manufactured exclusively for the boer settlements in south africa who had two wars with the british. I would like to thank raymond labar and his book bayonets of japan for getting me inspired to learn about the japanese bayonet markings when youre out there and you find yourself staring at a japanese bayonet, hopefully these markings will help you decide if the bayonet is worth the asking. German made with similar design to the german mauser sawback 1871 bayonet. Printed in the usa, this heavy book has 540 pages in 8. The collectors book of german bayonets 16801945 part one roy williams on. Garys diligent research continued after publication of his first book in 1997 and u. In trying to determine if you should collect wwii german bayonets there are certain factors that should be considered.

Christian mery published german ersatz bayonets during world war one, the most recent english edition of which was published in 2019. Bayonets collectors source, military collectibles online. Apr 28, 2020 the sword and knife makers of germany 18502000 volume 1, al, is an excellent book for identifying german knives, swords, bayonets and markings on them. Bayonets from janzens notebook from the introduction this book has several objectives, including the documentation of my collection, presentation of the information i have accumulated and, finally, the compilation of a reasonably complete, inexpensive book for the novice collector, partial collector and bayonetrelated collector, this effort is in no way a definitive reference work and, in. Anthony and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at. It was important for the military to have equal length of rifle including bayonet as the main enemy the french. Yataghan sword bayonets collection collectors weekly. The collectors book of german bayonets 16801945 part one. Being able to read and interpret these markings enables the collector to ascertain some information about the weapon and possibly deduce some of its history, all of which adds to the collectibility of the piece. This page focuses on german rare and unusual bayonets and other edged weapons for sale or trade that are in above average condition for the advanced collector.

In 2010, roy williams published, the collectors book of german bayonets 16801945 part two, which focused on ersatz bayonets, expanding on carters prior works. German colonial uniforms bayonets of the imperial german. Images may not be used or reproduced without our permission. Dw has a couple of small tears, but a very nice example. Go to the world non german bayonets for sale section on the home page for bayonets used by all countries other than germany. German ersatz bayonets originally published in french, now available in english. Collector s book of german bayonets, 16801945, roy williams, 2005 collector s pictorial book of bayonets, stephens, 1971 confederate edged weapons, albaugh, 1960.

All images contained on this site belong to the collector s guild inc. A damaged p1888 mk 1 bayonet that would have been used on the lee metford or long lee mk 1 rifles, damaged by having pommel broken off then cut down and resharpened for use as a trench knife, likely great war vintage. We retain the right to scan any items consigned to us for use on this web page or in reference material we are publishing to help inform and educate collectors. On certain models, the year is a part of the number, e. This is a very brief introduction to the vast topic of imperial german bayonet markings in general and is by no means a full list of all markings bayonets used in the imperial era. According to john walters book, the german bayonet, simson began making the m1898 in 1902 and the change to the twopiece grip was implemented by may 1902. There are many very good websites about bayonets but there arent many that are dedicated to. The standard book for new and experienced collectors, the range of blades and countries covered make it a very good primer on bayonets and is probably the first book any collector should buy, even if you have decided to restrict your collection to a specific blade its all round cover can be a benefit to any collector.

The following tables and diagrams illustrate the more common markings found on british and commonwealth bayonets, organized by country. The collectors pictorial book of bayonets stephens, frederick john on. The german bayonet from the dustjacket endflaps the first comprehensive study of german bayonets to be published in any language. The imperial monogram and date of manufacture markings appear on the blunt side of the blade as usual on most naval bayonets. First just the appearance of the light wood grips with the metal swaz sunk in within a circle and the metal swaz on the scabbard really look neat. German colonial uniforms bayonets of the imperial german navy. The french m1866 chassepot bayonet, probably the most common and well known of the yataghan bayonets. More than 11,500 bayonets have been documented to determine the years of production cited here. A collector may decide what to collect based on the likes of the person.

I started this web page in the hopes that it can act as a gathering place for other bayonet collectors. Some individuals collect all bayonets and related items, others may want only matching numbers bayonets, etc. Books a collection british and commonwealth bayonets. Heres a desirable one, i love these last ditch bayonets with the rough finishes. I will need a good photo, description or photograph of the markings. Home a collection british and commonwealth bayonets. Iv is stamped, mayebe a unit marking identification roys book, number 662. Model 1892, m1905 19061922, m1917, m1905 19421943, m1, m4, m5, m6, m7, m9, and much, much more. A guide for collectors, including notes on makers, markings, finishes, variations, scabbards, and production data. The bayonet m189805 with a sawback was used by pioneers and machine gunner crews among others. Listing of old bayonet collector books gunboards dot com. The bayonet identification guide features pictures and dimensions of bayonets from around the world.

A guide to some of the markings found on british bayonets. Until recently i completely ignored the socket bayonets of the 19th century and in my opinion this had been a big mistake. Prices where quoted are those that i have seen for sale and indicate an average price and are only for out of print books and reflects top price for books in almost mint condition. The quality of this chinese item is much better than the quality of its ak bayonets. They are therfore marked with the serial number of the weapon. I may also need dimensions or some other information that i will ask you for. When this happens, its time to remortgage your property as you. A concise description of the s14 german bayonets of wwi covers all models, makers, markings etc. Always a good new for any collector to know the posibility to obtain high quality replicas of the first pattern m9 bayonet. The sword and knife makers of germany 18502000 volume 1, al, is an excellent book for identifying german knives, swords, bayonets and markings on them. Some of these combinations are scarcer than others.

Discussion in information requests started by franz45, sep 18, 2009. The sawback was a favoured tool among german military units. Unfollow german bayonets to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. Bayonet trader bayonet trader bayonets and other edged. The weapon numbers run consecutively from left to right, 6441, 6442 and 6443. You will find more rare and collectible bayonets on my site than at any large regional gun show. Current list of collectible bayonets from germany and german states for sale to bayonet collectors.

Ventura, california, 93006 imperial german regimental markings is just under 200 pages long with a nicely bound 8. Anthony carters untimely death the following year was a terrible loss to the knife world and he was unable to complete volume ii. This was probably the firstever book detailing german bayonets. If you dont have the time or inclination to spend the hours involved to find bayonets like these, why not let me do it for you. Included in this book is detailed information on the following bayonets and their scabbards. In this section i offer a continual, small selection of items for sale. The binding is a rugged sidesewn style, a costly process reserved for library editions. While the book has been out for quite a while, no one else has come close to putting together the wealth of information on the development of german bayonets. Our corporate offices are located in gillette, new jersey, less than one hour from new york city.

These items have been described to the best of my ability. Added an interesting vz24 bayonet to the czechoslovakia page of the bayonet identification guide this example, made in 1940, bears the german number code 945, which was assigned to the zbrojovka, brno, plant, under the zahlencode system number code system used by germany from 19251940 to hide the identities of firms manufacturing war materiel. I have put together a quick reference sheet for japanese bayonet markings for the type 30 bayonet. This website is dedicated to all bayonets that are made in the netherlands or were used by the dutch armed forces. Bayonets a collector s guide to scandinavian bayonets this latest book provides extensive and in depth examination of 55 bayonets from nordic countries since the mideighteenth century, until the end of the 60s of the twentieth century. Note also the phenomenon of doublemarked imperial german bayonets. The plug bayonet the definitive reference work on the origin and form of these early bayonets. The imperial german regimental marking by jeff noll. Made by several countries for use by the french, including germany, the uk, belgium and holland. Apr 06, 2018 ww1 german bayonets from my collection. Some had german regimental markings, others had farsi numbers, and others had arabic numbers. Markings on swedish bayonets bayonets of scandinavia.

Nice original markings remain on ricasso with an unusually prolific number of proof changes. After over 30 years of collecting paratrooper and other airborne insignia, equipment etc. The basic rifle at the outbreak of the great war 1914 was mauser m1898. German bayonets volume iv regulation pattern sword.

At this time, there wasnt a decent book on bayonets, let alone german ones. The following are the books in my library, the comments on the book are mine and reflect my opinions based on the book itself and discussions with other collectors. Collecting bayonets is a limited edition of 1,000 copies. Board of ordnance wrote to all factories that they should mark barrels and locks with the factory stamp. Bayonet reference books and other printed source material.

The recent discussion of watts and whites, bayonet book prompted me to dig out the books i had when i started collecting. On 25 years of colleting, i have seen only 2 examples, the one i bought it, very expensive. German militaria and reference books for sale bayonet trader. This book is 448 pages which is hardbound with over 900 full color photographs. I specialize in imperial german bayonets but i am always interested in any rare or unusual bayonet from around the world. This and the following 3 volumes are the books to have on german bayonets, written by one of the most respected authors on bayonets these books cover in great detail the history of each bayonet, markings, variations etc. Military edged weapons of the world, 18001965 by herman a moeurer. I am currently the president of the society of american bayonet collectors. The blade is stamped cof44 indicating the year of construction 1944. American, british empire and german bayonets to be sold at. Id davidson bayonet markings a guide for collectors. The following is a summary of the main variations that can be found, it does not cover all of the different makers marks nor dates, although you will find serious wwii collectors of the type who try for complete sets of makers and dates. I have a variation of a common wwi ersatz styel that as far as rays research went is the only one known pictures of it actually held up his book but the variations are so minor you realy have to know what to look for to not pass. German militaria and reference books for sale bayonet.

All ersatz type of bayonets will fit on both german m1888 and m1898 rifles. Beyond bayonets a dire warning eventually in your collecting life, a day will come when you start to wonder what some of your prize exhibits would look like attached to their correct rifle or musket. Tables show which manufacturer made which variations in which years. The history of the bayonet is indeed an interesting one, and this comprehensive reference does a splendid job of. Bayonet markings a guide for collectors unknown binding january 1, 1973 by i. If you have bayonets or collectable military rifles for trade i am interested in swapping. Collecting bayonets a personal view, and excellent reference work by one of the worlds foremost collectors. Buck made the bayonets with the probis markings on them, as well as the civilian model with the. Apr 03, 2018 kilburn has contributed to several bayonet books items from his collection were featured in these books.

Bayonet identification identify bayonets and related. Jim maddox has been an avid collector of bayonets since 1960. This is an excellent text on decoding imperial regimental markings. A collectors pictorial book of bayonets, nice little hard back book complete with dw. For more information the following websites are highly recommended. For those of you that are new to this page, i have been a bayonet collector for more than two decades. Apr 28, 2020 i have been collecting military bayonets and other edged weapons for over 35 years and i live near the smokey mountains in the united states. Wwii german bayonet manufacturer markings wwii forums. I will identify and give you my best estimate of a retail value for 20. To go further into the subject some highly recommended books are german bayonets vols. This was the very first bayonet collectors page on the internet.

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